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Avoiding Bad
Beats in Online
Poker
There
are plenty of ways
in which to form
strategies for
avoiding bad beats
in online poker.
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As I
have been seeing
loads of posts and
rumble around
because members have
been suffering
BAD-BEATS... I
thought I would post
you some points to
be aware about
playing poker.
First of all – lets
start with the
obvious… Don’t go
all in unless you
have the nuts! (-or
can get your
opponent to believe
you have it)
PLAY THE RIGHT HANDS
and fold the crap
Posted some advise
about this here:
http://wassonline.com/poker-forum/showthread.php?t=25949
There is also some
advice there about
what to bet on them
– but in general –
if your hold cards
are in the top 5-6,
you should bet them
strong preflop, to
get all those
holding rags to
fold. AND –
furthermore – the
better they are, the
harder they should
be played to protect
them. If they all
fold – so be it.
The biggest mistakes
I see happen ALL the
time – are folks
thinking that there
pocket A or K are
unbeatable…
- but FFS – that’s
still just ONE
PAIR…. the second
LOWEST poker hand
you can have.
IF you chose to play
those top5-6
starting hands weak,
because you hope to
set a “trap” – you
will very often end
up trapping
yourself, because
you chose to give
away free or cheap
cards to your
opponents.
Personally I just
LOVE to play against
players that I know
will “try to set
traps” based only on
there hold cards.
Playing them makes
me call with just
about any two suited
or connected cards,-
because the odds
preflop of me
hitting a better
hand with rags are 3
or 4 times out of
10… but the implied
pot odds (the
possible pot size at
the end) makes it a
bet really worth
taking (limping in I
mean).
I do actually make
notes on anyone I
play with regarding
this,- and if one of
them limps in – so
do I with just about
any two cards.
So – the better your
hold cards are – the
stronger you should
play them PREFLOP!
And with “stronger”
I do mean a bet
difficult to call
with rags – say 5-8
x BB – but NEVER all
in unless 5-8 x BB
is almost your
entire stack!!!
Avoiding bad beats
in online poker
after the flop:
- is the time to
really evaluate what
hit the board. As
the headline of
these notes is “How
to avoid the bad
beats” – I’ll talk
from the assumption
that the hold cards
are one of the top 4
– AA, KK, QQ, JJ and
that you HAVE bet
preflop accordingly.
You are holding
kings and just one
opponent called your
preflop 6xbb bet.
Now – we must now
expect the opponent
to be holding fine
card also – or a
complete donk
holding rags. Still
anything is
possible.
Of cause lots also
depends on your
opponents playing
style and what reads
HE have on YOU – who
is first to act and
a lot more… but in
general terms…:
Flop hits the board
showing Jh – 10c –
8h
If you are first to
act – you don’t have
a freekin' clue of
what he holds – so
start analyzing what
could HURT you on
the board as it is,
and what if we allow
seeing the turn
card.
The
obvious risk – you
are already beat cus
he is holding pocket
AA or have hit trips
on the flop. Nothing
else could beat you
at this point. (as
it’s unlikely he
called your initial
bet with Q-9 or
9-7).
Question: could he
have that with your
initial preflop bet
in mind? Answer is
YES – is it likely –
YES
there are two harts
= possible draw to a
flush (9 outs to hit
or 1:4,1 risk that
the turn card is a
hart)
Question: could he
have that with your
initial preflop bet
in mind? Answer is
YES – is it likely –
YES
there are two
consecutive cards =
possible straight
draw if he holds QK
or pocket pair 9 (or
a donk with A9) - (8
outs to hit or
1:4,75 risk that the
turn card is giving
him the straight)
Question: could he
have that with your
initial preflop bet
in mind? Answer is
YES – is it likely –
hmm, not much but
possible
– or both straight
and flush giving 15
outs to hit or 1:2
risk he hit if
holding KQh
Question: could he
have that with your
initial preflop bet
in mind? Answer is
YES – is it likely –
hmm, not much
He’s holding AK or
AQ having only 2 or
3 outs to hit the
gut shot straight +
3 outs to hit his
pair A or say about
1:6,66 that he will
hit that.
Question: could he
have that with your
initial preflop bet
in mind? Answer is
YES – is it likely –
yes very likely he
called you with AK
or AQ – perhaps even
suited in harts
We don’t KNOW
anything yet – so
what you have to do
now after the
evaluation is to
decide – how
expensive should it
be for him to see
the turn card. Do I
even dare letting
him see it?
With the above in
mind:
we could already be
beat with aces or
trips, and he’s
HOPING for a strong
bet it’s pretty
likely he could be
having AK, AQ, KQ or
99 that COULD hurt
me – giving him odds
between 4:1 and 6:1
I have to place a
bet that….:still
allow me to get off
the hand again
without being pot
committed gives the
opponent bad pot
odds to call my bet
with a draw
In this situation I
would place a bet
that big, that it
will cost my
opponent between 30
and 50% of the
combined stack to
call,- offering him
a 1:3 or 1:2 return
on his bet to call.
Basically – I don’t
want him to call as
I don’t like the
odds seeing the turn
card. BUT – IF he
calls me,- I’m
getting good odds to
win a fine pot.
- and still if he
comes over the top
on me or move it all
in – I will have to
decide to stand down
believing him to
have aces or trips,
or take on the
fairly good bet
given to me, as my
hand is likely to be
in front and could
also be further
improved with wither
K or Q (6 outs)
Figures… - just to
clarify:
SB/BB = 50/100
Preflop pot: 2 tried
to limp in + sb and
bb. Me betting 6xbb
and one of them
called = 1450 in the
pot.
Post flop bet should
be 1000 – pot now
2450 and it costs
1000 to call = 2,5:1
- so he’s pot odds
is 1:2,5 with odds
to win 1:4 to 1:6 =
bad deal
Now – there’s
nothing we can do
against the pure
amateurs just
recently started
playing poker, - or
the wildly
aggressive players
with a big chip
stack. They will
call or even raise
you, regardless of
the above well sized
bet…. All you CAN do
is to ensure that IF
they play you bet,
you offer them a bad
return on there
investment.
So IF called, you
will have to go thru
the same evaluation
again – what did the
turn card change –
did the hart show –
or the 9 or A… or a
K giving you trips
but also a possible
nut straight..?
Calculate the risk
and place a bet
accordingly. If
danger has shown on
the board – place a
fair bet and see
what pot odds the
opponent will give
YOU to call if he
raises you.
The
Dice:
Another way to
explain the pot odds
is with a dice. It
has 6 sides with
numbers 1 to 6.
Statistically the
numbers come out
100% equally and the
chance of hitting
one specific number
is 1:5 (For every 6
rolls with the dice
– one will hit your
number and five will
not hit)
Now – if two guys
bets on rolling the
dice – and the bet
is that the one wins
if a 6 shows and the
other wins if that 6
DON’T show… The odds
on it is 5:1. Should
they give them self
a fair deal, this
bet should cost 1$
for the one playing
on the 6 to come and
5$ for the one
betting it will NOT
be a 6.
If they roll the
dice 600 times –
they will have won
the same amount –
both still be on
zero.
BUT – should you
come over one of
those wildly
aggressive players
or someone that
don’t care about the
“POT ODDS”, - you
could offer him 3:1
on his money –
winning only 3$ if
he hits the 6 but
still costing him 1$
to play.
Roll the dice again
those 600 times and
you would have won
500 and he would
have won 360.
Point is not to
“beat the odds” but
to keep on giving
your opponents a bad
deal if they wanna
play with you.
- you will still
suffer bad beats,-
but in the long run
you will break them
playing your POT
ODDS and not your
GUT ODDS.
Last comment in
regard to avoiding
bad beats in online
poker will be about
the term “Being pot
committed”. First of
all – that’s total
and absolute crap.
It’s all just
feelings,- “cry baby
cry… I have put so
many chips in this
pot that I cant fold
now”… CRAP I TELL
YA!!!
If you aint given
the pot odds worth
playing – FOLD and
fight another day.
Simple as that. I
get FURIOUS when I
see someone saying
“I know you got me
beat – but I’m pot
committed and have
to call now”… just
to see that they
where right and they
ARE beaten.
Feelings like that
have NO place in a
poker game, and if
you often find
yourself in this
situation – calling
with bad pot odds,
just because “it’s
your chips laying in
the pot”… you should
seriously consider
to stop playing
poker.
If the pot odds aint
worth playing – then
f***in' don’t!
- This way and ONLY
this way will you
long term be the
winner.
BLUFFING
Bluffs are an
important part of
the game also – but
please, please… make
your bluffs LOOK
like you have done
the math and are
playing the pot
odds. If betting way
to high you shout to
heaven “BLUFFING” –
and to little – you
still give away free
cards.
- so a bluff also
needs to give bad
pot odds to your
opponent with the
options shown.
Stig
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Posted to
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29, 2008 8:59 am EST
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